DOCUMENT:Q129884 02-NOV-2001 [vbwin] TITLE :PRB: HWNDs on OLE Controls Are Not Persistent PRODUCT :Microsoft Visual Basic for Windows PROD/VER::4.0 OPER/SYS: KEYWORDS: ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information in this article applies to: - Microsoft Visual Basic Standard Edition for Windows, version 4.0 - Microsoft Visual Basic Professional Edition for Windows, version 4.0 - Microsoft Visual Basic Enterprise Edition for Windows, version 4.0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SYMPTOMS ======== Attempting to access the hWND property when it is invalid results in error 438: Object doesn't support this method or property. CAUSE ===== OLE controls (such as the Data-Bound Grid, Data-Bound Listbox, and OLE Container control) provide an hWND property, but it is not guaranteed to be valid at every given instance. RESOLUTION ========== Unlike previous versions of Visual Basic, where the hWND property was consistently valid for non-lightweight controls as long it was visible, OLE controls are more efficient regarding window usage; therefore, the hWND property may not be always valid. Because each window, including most controls, in Microsoft Windows requires a certain amount of overhead and system resources, minimizing the number of windows increases the overall performance of the system. OLE Controls typically have a valid hWND when the control is activated, however if the control is not currently being used, the OLE control frequently releases the hHWND, making the property invalid. Therefore, when using the hWND property of a OLE control, you need to take great care. It is not advisable to store the hWnd property of OLE controls in a variable for later use because the value may have changed by the time you use it. You should always reference the hWnd of OLE controls by using the .hWnd syntax. STATUS ====== This behavior is by design. Additional query words: 4.00 vb4win vb4all ====================================================================== Keywords : Technology : kbVBSearch kbAudDeveloper kbZNotKeyword6 kbZNotKeyword2 kbVB400Search kbVB400 Version : :4.0 Issue type : kbprb ============================================================================= THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THE MICROSOFT KNOWLEDGE BASE IS PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND. MICROSOFT DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. IN NO EVENT SHALL MICROSOFT CORPORATION OR ITS SUPPLIERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER INCLUDING DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, LOSS OF BUSINESS PROFITS OR SPECIAL DAMAGES, EVEN IF MICROSOFT CORPORATION OR ITS SUPPLIERS HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES. SOME STATES DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL DAMAGES SO THE FOREGOING LIMITATION MAY NOT APPLY. Copyright Microsoft Corporation 2001.